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01/26/1982 - Minutes MINUTES CIVIC CENTER SUB-COMMITTEE MEETING Tuesday, January 26, 1982 The meeting was called to order by Gary Fox at 7:35 p.m. Members present: Gary Fox, Howard Duffy, Gerry Edwards and Yvonne Burgess. Absent: Steve Alexander. Non-voting members present: J.B. Bishop. Absent: Floyd Bergman. Guests: Linda Sargent, City Staff; Bob Jean, City Administrator; Chuck Samuels, Civic Center Committee Chairman; Bob Adams, Chief of Police; Irene Ertell, City Librarian; Walt Munhall, Library Board Chairman; Holly Johnson, Journal reporter; and Dennis Brun, architect. Review of Space Needs Linda Sargent compared the needs estimated by the City staff with those prepared by Dennis Brun. Original estimate Architect's estimate Police Department 11,000 square feet 13,656 square feet Library 11XDO-19,000 18,895 Administration & Finance approximately the same in both cases Public Works Operation hadn't been included previously, but Department Head Claire Mead suggests remodeling the existing two buildings into one larger two-story building. Police Chief Adams reviewed the specific need for an indoor fire arms training range for his department. The cost of this specialized area and equipment to be amortized by 1991. An on-site range would eliminate the increasing costs (overtime and travel ex- penses) presently incurred in taking the tests for qualification standards at sites in the Portland or the Washington County firing ranges, because testing must be scheduled during off-duty hours. The training program for officers would be improved with our own firing range. L Irene Ertell asked about the two meeting rooms for the library, 500 and 1,500 square feet. Dennis Brun explained that different-sized rooms would allow for different-size meetings at any one time. There is also the Council chamber for larger meetings. Irene would like an assistant librarian's office to be included. Discussion of Site Analysis Crow-PW: Dennis Brun explained that the sub-committee should be aware that there are about three acres available land out of the flood plain on the combined Crow and Pub- lic Works sites. Bob Jean reminded the sub-committee that a proposed lake in the park will Xffect the flood plain favorably. Dennis assured us that all the land use in the contiguous area is compatible with a Civic Center. He doesn't feel a straight street through the Civic Center is desirable; curves would be more desirable and would also lessen the probability of high-speed traffic. Bob Jean said the City Council is sup- protive of ideas to slow down traffic. Air King: The site is close to an industrial use area where major improvement invest- ments have been made and are not subject to change in the near future. In contrast, the area nearer Main Street is a major improvement package with smaller buildings all adaptable to change. Neither the Crow nor the Public Works site is large enough separately. The combined sites will have enough buildable land, and the flood plain line can be relocated by restructuring the elevation. From a practical standpoint, the Crow-Public Works site is best. Air King could be acceptable, but it doesn't do anything for the redevelop- ment of the City. Dennis cannot recommend the Air King site. -2- A motion was made by Howard Duffy and seconded by Gerry Edwards that the Air King loca- tion be dropped from consideration for two reasons: 1. the noise factor 2. bordering long-term, permanent industrial buildings The motion carried unanimously. Howard moved that Dennis consider the redevelopment use of additional property between Burnham and Public Works, which includes the Police Station, Miller's Automotive, D.W.D. Builders, and include this area in footprint and design. Gerry seconded the motion and it carried by a vote of three in favor and one against. Discussion of Campaign and Financing Strategy Timing: Bob Jean reviewed possible measures on the 1982 May and November ballots. May: City Charter changes Loaves and Fishes Senior Center tax and levy Fire district Gas tax iCgs i,eJ� November: School di trict City operating tax base 1'% property tax initiative Abolish Metro (?) Bike path levy ends 182-183 County road levy ends 182-13 Bob emphasized what passage of a 1'% tax limitation would do if a bond isn't passed prior to November. Bob recommends a June 29th special election. He believes May or November would be suicidal because of the other money issues on the ballot. For inclusion on the May ballot, the completed resolution must be presented to the City Council by. March 8th. Bob and Dennis agree it would be impossible for the sub-committee and the committee to meet the time frame for a May election. For the June ballot, the latest date for presentation to the City Council for approval would be May 10th and to the County by May 11th for inclusion on the ballot. Bob provided an example of the financing possibilities and taxes needed for a Civic Center complex costing $3,500,000. (See attached example. ) He feels the City could build a complex for $3,500,000 to $5,000,000 and keep the total City taxes under $2.00 per thousand assessed valuation. Civic Center Committee Chairman Chuck Samuels commended the sub-committee for the job it has completed as charged. This is the last meeting of the sub-committee for this phase of the project. The sub-committee will be suspended after the committee meeting Thursday. 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