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02/22/1984 - Minutes CITY OF TIGARD BUDGET COMMITTEE MINUTES FEBRUARY 22, 1984 Fowler Junior High School The Budget Committee meeting was called to order by Chairman Wally Hoffman at 7:38 p.m. Roll Call: W. Hoffman, D. Evans, G. Edwards, J. Smith, H. Duffy, J. Cook, I. Scott, W. Bishop, K. Scheckla, T. Brian (8:15). Staff: R. Jean, J. Widner, F. Currie, J. Hagman, J. McNurlin, J. Martin (7:40) , S. Rivett (7:45), W. Avery (7:45) , B. Monahan (8:21). Guests : G. Ball, L. Allen (8:00) Item 3. Approve Minutes. G. Edwards moved to approve the minutes of the 2/15/84 meeting. J. Smith seconded. Vote: 9/0 passed. Item 4. Staff Update. In addition to the packet material, R. Adams memo was handed out to the committee. Item 5. Community Development. R. Jean stated the major difference in Public Works between the requested and proposed budget would be in Parks. K. Scheckla asked about the Green Thumb program-renewal. R. Jean explained the program would not be continued for the function we have available. F. Currie explained that he and J. McNurlin were notified by Green Thumb that funding for this program would not be continued next year. Public Works-Frank Currie. He directed the Budget Committee to the summary ;, , pages and discussed the changes. Page 60-general fund dependency has been decreasing-used mainly for parks and shop. Page 61-no changes. Page 65-Wastewater-adding 1 full-time person--maintenance worker. H. Duffy asked Frank to elaborate on the personal services. Again, it was noted the increased cost of benefits. R. Jean referred the Budget Committee to the staff update report. F. Currie explained that the OAI position is displayed incorrectly in the utility worker salaries. 25% of the salary is in this section. He went on to discuss the capital outlay request for a sewer cleaner for $71,000. This cleaner is a small one to replace the current 16 year old equipment. D. Evans asked about the life expectancy? 10-20 years with proper maintenance. H. Duffy asked about how often sewer lines were cleaned in the City? The goal is once every 3-4 years. How long has this program been in existence? Since before Frank's employment with the City. Have all the sewer lines been cleaned? No-partially due to cutbacks in funding and timing. W. Hoffman stated that from the provided data, it looks like it would take 6 years to clean all of the sewer lines. R. Jean asked how many more feet could be cleaned by purchasing the new sewer cleaner? Response was that the capability would be there to clean more lines. H. Duffy asked if there were any guidelines for sewer line maintenance available from USA or the State? Not at this time, however, the insurance agent is most stringent with the question of risk. Are the service levels comparable to other cities? Is there a benchmark with other cities? Frank stated that he feels a goal of 3-4 years is appropriate for Tigard, however, he will get estimates from other cities on how often sewer lines are cleaned. K. Scheckla wanted to know who would be operating the new equipment and to make sure they were properly trained before they would be using it. G. Edwards stated that he would like departments to provide justification for capital outlay high dollar items. This could include brochures, projections as to what the equipment could do, how it will affect productivity, what will happen to old equipment-will it be scrapped, traded-in or sold? Some proof of maintenance costs on old equipment should also be provided. H. Duffy stated he would like to see the dollar return for the service level gains-and benchmarks from other cities if available. Frank stated that if we had a fleet management program he could provide this data more readily than now. Page 69. Streets-OAI included in this section also. I. Scott asked about the striping machine-could this be contracted out? Discussion followed regarding the grader. D. Evans asked how many hours of grading did the 1942 equipment do? Approximately one week per year. The grader is used in other areas as well. I. Scott asked about consolidation with water district's equipment. Frank stated that in the past, the district has not wanted to consolidate purchases, however he has been working with John Miller to encourage the combined use. For example, the City will be assisting in the maintenance of the water district's equipment next year. These expected revenues have been included in the budget. K. Scheckla asked about the rents/leases line item on page 67. This is rental of large equipment to clean storm drainage. Discussion followed on the merits of the work level indicators and projections for 83-84 and 84-85. Page 73. Parks. Adds two people to maintain service levels in current parks. Discussion of prior history of numbers of employees in this section followed. Because of better equipment and the Green Thumb program the City was able to hold back on new hires, but with the discontinuance of Green Thumb next year will need the two new hires. Without these new hires, the mowing in Jack, Woodard and Summerlake would not be maintained and Cook Park would not be maintained at 100% either. The City did have volunteer help in the Englewood neighborhood to get this in shape this year, however next year none of the neighborhood parks would be maintained by the City. In capital outlay three pieces of equipment are requested: a tractor, mower and fertilizer spreader. This request appeared two years ago and was approved, although the department held off with the purchase until the new superintendent had an opportunity to determine what kind of equipment the City needed. The requested budget includes a chemical sprayer. Page 77. OAI included in this section. There has been a substantial increase in service due to the mix of employees shifting. The Senior Center building maintenance is done by this section, along with other City building maintenance assistance. Page 80 includes a spray washing unit and tools. Page 81. Engineering. - The difference is in adding a Engineer in Training position and an Engineering Aide. This addition is primarily cost recoverable through LID's. J. Smith asked if we were in competition with the private sector? Frank stated that he had discussed this with consulting engineers and they felt we were not. PAGE TWO R. Jean directed the Budget Committee to page xiii, which indicates that the engineering division is virtually fee supported. Discussion followed on engineering division, street lighting etc. G. Edwards left. Page 120 Capital Projects. Frank reviewed the proposed capital projects for wastewater, streets and parks. The meeting recessed at 9:15. Reconvened 9:25 with the following people: W. Hoffman, D. Evans, J. Smith, H. Duffy, T. Brian, K. Scheckla, J. Cook. Staff: R. Jean, J. Widner, B. Monahan, J. Martin. Guests: L. Allen, G. Ball. R. Jean reviewed the revenue sources of the Planning & Development Department. B. Monahan stated the major change in his requested budget is the addition of a half building inspector/codes enforcement officer. He reviewed with he budget committee some of the recommendations being discussed by the codes enforcement committee. Pointed out pages 95 - reallocate the proposed dollars to include $2,000 for a hearings officer in contractual services. Total proposed would not change; page 93 - work measurements indicate 360 hours of compensating time for meetings by two planners; page 90 work measurements for building permits. Revenues are up in both planning and building. Discussion followed re: CDBG and codes enforcement. Several members of the committee agreed that the codes enforcement is valuable i.e. , weeds and other nuisances can quickly take over. R. Jean said that the OAI has been sending letters to violaters and this sometimes works. K. Scheckla wanted to know what's different from last year when the plans examiner position was cut. B. Monahan stated that the position last year was top heavy and the plans examiner was not a fielderson. The request this p q year is for field work assistance to free up the current inspectors to review plans. The OAI has picked up the clerical assistance the former plans examiner position was doing. H. Duffy said its really up to the Budget Committee if they want to subsidize this type of program. TURA-B. Monahan explained briefly that the program is in the process of close out and all that is needed next year is to repay the outstanding loan and to reimburse the other taxing districts for any unused revenues. General questions followed-H. Duffy asked about the assessed valuation assumptions on page vi. This was discussed, along with service levels and affording of same. R. Jean reminded Budget Committee that the proposed budget is the bottom-line if a tax base does not pass. The Budget Committee agreed with the comment that communication of this fact will be critical to the tax base passage. The meeting was recessed until February 29, 1984 at 10:15 p.m. Wally Hoff n, a' JLW:ms (0207F) PAGE THREE