Planning Commission Packet - 09/09/1975 POOR QUALITY RECORD
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TIGARD PLANNING COMMISSION
If SEPTEMBER 9, 1975 - SPECIAL MEETING
GENERAL TELEPHONE OFFICES
S.W. MAIN STREET, TIGARD
A. CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Hartman called the meeting to order
at 7:45 P.M.
B. ROLL CALL: Present: Sakata, Popp, Wakem, Hansen, Porter and
Hartman; Staff: Bolen
Absent: Nicoll, mss, Smelser
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C. CONTINUANCE OF DISCUSSION FROM THE AUGUST 26, 1975 STUDY SESSION
CONCERNING THE PLAN SUBMITTED BY N.P.O. #3.
1. Hartman opened the meeting describing the intended purpose
and the objectives which he hoped would be obtained. The
stated purpose was for the Planning Commission to take a
position regarding the various proposals, policies, and
recommendations found in the N.P.O. #3 Plan. Having done so,
the Commission would then decide whether to send the Plan
on to the City Council for their consideration along with a
report by the Planning Commission or to send the Plan and
Commission's accompanying report back to the N.P.O. for
further study.
2. Porter said he would favor adopting the minority report
presented to the Planning Commission by Bibianne Scheckla,
an NPO #3 member. In addition he recommended that the Plan
be sent back to the NPO with the instruction that it be
rewritten.
3. Hartman said he was in favor of adopting the Plan as submitted
with the exception that the off ramp from 99W into Canterbury
remain.
4. Popp stated his agreement with Hartman but said he felt left
turns should he prohibited for northbound traffic onto Gaarde
and for southbound lanes onto McDonald.
5. Mrs. John Fessler, a resident from 121st Avenue spoke against
the realignment, stating her concern that additional traffic
would be attracted to the Gaarde-121st Avenue alignment.
6. Porter suggested signalizing McDonald Street but that Gaarde
be left in its present alignment with no signalization. He
added that if it were found at a later time that signalization
of Gaarde were necessary also, that this could be done and he
has been assured of the feasibility of such a project by Ron
Failmetzger, the regional highway traffic engineer for the
State of Oregon. He said Mr. Failmetzger advised him that there
are other offset intersections within the metropblitan area
which have been signalized already and do function.
7. Popp thought that to signalize McDonald would increase left
turns to Gaarde Street by persons seeking destinations in
the west Beaverton area.
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8. Sakata stated her belief that the realignment would make a
poor intersection much safer.
9. Porter said that CRAG wishes to connect Murray Blvd. to Pacific
Highway by using a link between 135th and Gaarde and by so
doing would create an arterial route on the present Gaarde
alignment.
10. Wakem asked Bolen to explain the reasons given by Carl Buttke
for realigning Gaarde and McDonald.
11. Bolen explained Buttke's reasoning to be one of balancing the
traffic safety features to be gained from realignment and
signalization against the traffic impacts that such a
realignment would have upon the Gaarde-121st Avenue residential
area. He said that Buttke found that the 500 to 1200 additional
cars would not be discernable to ersons living on the street.
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That is, the percentage increase of traffic which realignment
would produce would not be noticable, because by the time of
total development, Gaarde would be carrying heavy traffic
volumes. Bolen pointed out that Buttke's figures are for
total development and he has not made a projection as to what
would occur if realignment were achieved at this point in time,
It seems fair to say, however, that the proportional relation-
ship of thru traffic to local traffic increase which realignment
would produce at total development would also be present at
this time.
12. Wakem continued by saying it seems that the Planning Commissioners
are in agreement regarding the movement Of pedestrians in that
everyone agrees to the need for a pedestrian-bicycle path, but
not the movement of automobiles. He then stated that, based
upon the material that the Planning Commission had in hand
and the facts which have come out of the public hearing and
following study sessions, that the traffic circulation portion
of the Plan requires further study.
13. Hansen said that it is important that the plan clearly show
people what changes are going to occur in an area so land
development decisions can be made accordingly, rather than
allowing people to believe, for instance, that Gaarde will
never carry any more traffic than it does today , He added
that in order to carry 8,000 cars at, some future time, the
street obviously needs widening and other improvements if
it is going to be safer and it is important that people
are aware now that these changes will be necessary at some
future time.
14. Porter lodged his disagreement with Hansen, saying that he
saw no benefit to be gained by widening the street to 30 feet
as proposed by the Plan. He said that the present pavement
width is approximately 22 feet and it is now quite aasy to
drive at speeds as fast as 45 miles per hour. Widening would
therefore only allow higher speeds, certainly to the detriment
of the residential area the street passes through. Automobiles
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only need 11 to 12 feet driving lanes and to
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beyond this, such as the 15 feet per lane proposed by the Plan,
would only accommodate higher speeds.
15. Porter then asked the Commissioners to think about another
aspect of the Plan and that is recognizing large vacant parcels,
the owners of which have no intentions of developing at the
present time and many of which are in farm tax deferral. He
said the Plan should encourage such areas to remain in
agricultural uses in order that development may occur at a
reasonable rate, with the residents of the neighborhood
benefitting from the open areas which now exist for as long
a period as possible. He said he found the small amount
of open space presented on the Plan as inadequate for this
purpose.
16. Wakem proposed that there were four major issues concerning
the Commission which had been thoroughly discussed in the
last 3 study sessions and that possibly the Commission should
take them one by one and put them to a vote. He stated these
issues as:
a. That the Plan include a statement that a bicycle/pedestrian
path be provided on 121st and Gaarde as soon as possible.
b. That the proposed width of the paved street section be
reduced from 30 feet to 24 feet.
c. That the realignment not be accomplished as there is no
apparent reason to do so.
d. That stop signs be provided at certain key intersections
on both streets if found to be desirable to purposes
of slowing the speed of traffic and discouraging the
movement of through traffic.
17. Planning Commission voted on item a. and it passed by unanimous
vote. They then voted on item b. which resulted in a tie
vote. Item c. also resulted in a tie vote and item d. passed
by a majority vote of 5 ayes and 1 abstention.
18. The next issue to be discussed was the proposed extension of
110th Avenue to Gaarde. Popp spoke in favor of such a connection,
saying that it would enable residents of the Derry Dell area
to gain access to the Canterbury Shopping Center without
venturing onto Pacific Highway. Bibianne Scheckla stated her
objection to extending 110th, saying that it would result
in a congested intersection at Gaarde and 110th.
19. Popp moved to include the extension of 110th in the NPO #3
Plan and Hartman seconded. Vote on this motion was 5 ayes and
1 abstention.
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M, 20. Popp stated his objection against placing additional retail
commercial space adjacent Gaarde Street. The term additional s
meah.ilg ;'.over what land is presently zoned for Commercial use.
He then made a motion that the Hans Gaarde property north
of the present alignment of Gaarde Street be specified for f
uses found in the C-4 zonP and that the single R-7 zoned
parcel south of Gaarde Street be' zoned to mult-family use.
The motion was seconded by Porter and failed by a 4-2 vote. 1
21. Hansen moved that the Plan be submitted as presented to the I,
Planning Commission by NPO #3 to the City Council. Popp
seconded the motion and it failed by a 5 to 1 vote with Hansen 1!
the only aye vote. k'
22. Porter moved that any further discussion of the NPO #3 Plan j'.
be tabled -to the next regular meeting on 9/16/75. Sakata
seconded and the motion passed by unanimous vote .
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D. MINOR REVISION TO THE WAY LEE SUBDIVISION AT 69TH AND PACIFIC HWY. .
1. Bolen presented a revised plat to the Planning Commission showing
the terminus of the proposed 69th Avenue alignment moved 5 1''
feet to the north away from the White property to the south. III
He explained that the need for so doing has become necessary }%
because a resurveying of the land shows that Mr. White' s
carport is actually extending over onto the Way Lee property.
The result would be a public right-of-way with a building
eave protruding into it.
2. Popp moved to approve the change finding it to be necessary
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to overcome the encroachment of White's carport onto Way
Lee's property. Sakata seconded and the motion passed by
unanimous vote.
ADJOURNMENT: 10:30 P.M.
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Memorandum
To: Design Review Board }h
From: Planning Department Staff
Subject: Proposed Payless Project r%
Date: September 9, 1975 I
As you are probably aware, Payless Stores has bid upon the old Fowler it
site, but have had their offer rejected because of certain conditions
they wished to place upon the sale. I have been informed by Payless 1'
that these conditions were primarily to protect them in case they t'
found themselves in some kind of zoning flap which precluded their
intended use of the property. They are particularly cautious in
this regard because of_ a citizen suit brought against their efforts !!
to locate a store in Hillsboro. I believe the Tigard citizens' re= :: H k,
action to McDonald's plans also reinforced their concerns. 1
As the situation now stands, the School District is accepting only ,
a cash offer. Therefore, Payless has chosen to get all necessary ,
approvals prior to actually purchasing the property. In order to
deal most expeditiously with their proposed project, I advised the
Payless representatives to apply for a Planned Development zone change. rs
In this way, all aspects of the project (realigning Main Street, a fast
food restaurant site, etc. ) could be dealt with as a single project. 1
Payless took my advice and has made application .for a Planned Develop- ?.
ment Zone Change. Preliminary review of this proposal by the Planning
Commission will occur on September 16, 1975, at Twality Junior High
School in the Lecture Room, 14650 SW 97th Avenue, at 7:30 p.m. 1
The following summarizes the major features of the Payless plan, a copy
of which is enclosed in your packet. ,
1. Main Street would be realigned to form a loop on the end, 1
passing through part of the area where the school building
is now located and the adjacent used car lot, intersecting
Pacific Highway at approximately 90 degrees. (The used
car lot would be purchased as part of this project) . The
vacated land between the Main St. loop and Pacific would
be landscaped.
2. A traffic signal would be located at Main St. and Scoffins
and Scoffins would be improved to the south end of the
school property.
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it 3. A driveway now linking Sambo's Restaurant with Hall Blvd.
would be utilized by Payless, in effect, connecting Hall
and Scoffins through the Payless parking lot.
4. Payless, an Albertson's Grocery Store and some additional
rental space would set on the back of the school property
in the location of the existing baseball field. All ,
parking would be in the front.
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5. The corner of Scoffins and Main would be reserved for a
fast food chain restaurant. '
In bringing this project to the Board, the planning staff is seeking
assistance in making its recommendation to the Planning Commission.
The greatest assist which could be provided at this time is to ,
develop a list of design criteria 'for the Planning Commission to
utilize when evaluating Payless ' proposal. In that the Planned
Development zone considers project design as an element of the re-
quested land use, it is essential that the Board provide design
input at this time before the zoning is finalized and the only work
remaining left for the Board is to review the finer details of the
landscape and architectural plans.
Concerning the Payless proposal, staff would appreciate the Board's i
consideration of this proposal, not as necessarily a "Design Review",
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of the members in regard to questions that concern the staff and those ,f
that may be brought up by the Board in the course of your discussion.
The recommendation of the Board may become a basis for a list of site t
development design criteria to be presented to the Planning Commission.
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1. Site Orientation: . Should this site be primarily related to
Pacific Highway or should an effort be made to relate it to
the Main Street development? 1'
'n s at rear of site: Is the typical
2. Isolation of main buildings
arrangement of one vast parking lot between the building and
the highway desirable at this location?
3. Building location: Is the' long, single, dominant building .
line, paralleling the highway, desirable? q!
4. Pedestrian Circulation: What considerations should be .made
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to encourage pedestrian and mass transit use? Also, how
could pedestrian movements on the site be made more pleasant? f
5. What ramifications does the inclusion of a fast food restaur- i
ant on the corner of Main & Scoffins have for the site design
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and what impacts on Main St. and Scoffins will result?
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link with a provision for outdoor dining in the summer months. i
Should the structural elements of the site development be
related?
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6. Does the link-up with Hall Blvd. , through the Sambo'S
access, require development of a street through the
site to avoid the parking lot becoming an "undedicated
street" as is presently the case at the Tigard Plaza
Shopping Center where traffic bound for Hall Blvd.
from Center St. simply goes through the center of the
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parking lot?
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MINUTES
Tigard Site Development & Architectural Design Review Board
September 9, 1975
General Telephone Building, Main St. , Tigard, Oregon
1. CALL TO ORDER: 5:20 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL: Present: Cook, Kelting, Hammes, McMonagle, Wakem
Olson arrived at 6:10 p.m.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes of August 26, 1975, were approved
as read.
4. COMMUNICATIONS: None
5. PROJECT REVIEWS
(Due to lack of quorum as yet for item 54-, Farmers Credit
Union staff requested that item 5.2, Tigard Times, be taken
first) .
5.2 SDR 28-75 (Tigard Times)
A :request for review of a proposed office remodeling at
SW Main St. and Burnham St. (former Post Office bldg. ) .
A. Site Development Plan Review
1. Staff Report: read by Powell. Slides were shown,
2. Applicant Presentation: Joe Shafer of the Tigard
Times was present to answer questions.
3. Staff Recommendation: Approval as drawn with screen
planting provided in the space adjacent the loading
dock and diagonal parking channels in the rear of
the building.
4, Board Discussion and Action
o' The Board discussed the proposal, requested review
of the 'slides and then agreed to adjourn briefly
to inspect the site as it was 50 ft. away.
o Following inspection of the site, a brief dis-
cussion of the curb and sidewalk in front ensued.
o Moved to adopt per staff recommendations (Kelting) .
b Seconded (Hammes)..
IL o Motion to amend Kelting motion (Cook) to include
conditions of applicant' s restoring the former
curb cut in front of the building to a standard
sidewalk and curb and that he fill the narrow
curb cut adjacent the entrance on the Burnham St.
side.
o Motion to amend seconded (Wakem) .
o Motion carried 4-1, Kelting against.
o Motion to approve with amendment carried unani-
mously.
B. Architectural Design Review
1. Applicant Presentation: Charlotte Olson, designer
of the remodeling, described the proposed remodeling
for the Board.
2. Board Discussion and Action
o Motion to approve (Cooky~. -
o Seconded (Kelting) .
o Motion approved (unanimously) .
5.1 SDR 27-75 (Farmers Credit Union/Hawes, St. Clair, Miller,
Cook and Tollen)
• A request for review of a proposed 6000 sq. ft. office
building at SW 67th Avenue and Hampton St.
o Due to their involvement in the project, members Cook
and Wakem excused themselves from discussion and in-
dicated they would abstain from participation in this
review.
A. Site Development Plan Review
1. Staff Report: Read by Powell.
2. Applicant Presentation: Mr. Cook, representing the
architects,, described changes that they had made in
response to staff's recommendation and discussed the I
site plan and landscape design.
3. Staff Recommendation: Not presented.
4. Commission Discussion and Action
o Moved (Hammes) for approval.
o Seconded (Olson) .
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o Carried (unanimously) .
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B. Architectural Design Review
2 1. Applicant Presentation: Mr. Cook showed the ,,
Board a model of the building and described
colors and materials to be used.
2. Board Discussion and Action •
o Moved (Kelting) for approval.
o Seconded (Hammes) .
o Motion carried (unanimously) .
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-6.1 PRELIMINARY PROPOSAL FOR A SHOPPING CENTER AT SW MAIN ST.
AND SW SCOFFINS ST.
o Staff introduced the topic and provided the Board witli
background information and the-reasons for staff's
bringing this review before them at this time.
• o Dick Ehman, architect representing Payless (the appli-
cant) , presented his proposed site plan and described
the criteria and standards that he had used in develop-
ment of this plan.
o Hank Hummel, representing the applicant, described Pay-
less' concerns with site design and discussed the
applicant's concern with their acceptability to the
Boards and Commissions of the City of Tigard.
o Design Review Board discussed the proposal, questioning
Mr. Ehman on design points involved in his proposed
plan.
o Concern was shown with respect to the "street" through
the project and the impact that use of that street
would have on the project itself.
o Olson and McMonagle questioned the applicant concerning
alternative layout concepts, particularly ones that .
would, avoid a 'direct front exposure of the buildings to
Main St.
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o Mr. Ehman explained that he had tried the diagonal
orientation, but both grades and excessive distance to
parking spots had ruled it out.
o Cook expressed concern with the placement of the wide
expanse of parking between the•building and the street
and asked if the number of parking spaces was allright
with D.E.Q.
o McMonagle asked if it would be possible to place the
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buildings apart, more or less diagonally on the site,
with access to Samba's and Hall run between the •
buildings.
o Wakem said he felt landscaping would possibly be a
critical dimension in site development. •
o Mr. Ehman explained they had tried several alternative
layouts and the one presented was the only one that
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would fit their site development criteria.
o Cook expressed his concern that the sole criteria he
saw evidenced appeared to be the• use of the parking lot
and maximizing its effectiveness.
o McMonagle expressed an opinion -that diagonal orientation
of the bldgs. on the site he felt to be preferable and
that adequate grading of the site to eliminate excessive
grades would be inexpensive and well worth the effort.,
o McMonagle also asked if the applicant would consider
developing more fully his alternative in that con-
figuration.
o Cook said he felt that a more innovative approach must
be used for this site and he felt more thought should
be given to the proposal.
o There being no further business, the chairman asked
for adjournment.
7. ADJOURNMENT: 8:10 p.m.
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