12/05/1985 - Minutes A
Tigard Transportation Advisory Committee
Minutes of the December 5, 1985 Meeting
Present: Tom Sullivan (Chair) , Mark Padgett (Vice Chair) , Lidija Balodis,
Milt Fyre, Joe Schweitz (late) , Wilbur Bishop (late) and Dennis
Hummel.
Guests: Geraldine Ball abd Allen Troyer.
The meeting was called to order by Chair Tom Sullivan at 7:05 p.m. The
minutes of the previous meeting were approved.
Tom introduced Allen Troyer from ODOT to discuss signaliza tion on Pacific
Hwy. Mark began the discussion by asking if what is now in place is the
best, most modern system available or if it could be better. Allen responded
that the controllers are fairly new, they are the most modern and they are
the standard. Lidija asked if the system is speed based. Allen answered
yes, but that all lights are traffic actuated. They are semi-actuated
between the hours of 6:30 a.m. and 7:00 p.m. and totally traffic actuated
after 7:00 p.m. in accordance with the chart Allen distributed. The system
is not perfect. Everyone expressed concern with the lack of timing in the
system. Allen said that with the traffic actuated system, perfect timing is
impossible because of side street traffic. Time based clocks lose synchroni-
zation and several cycles are required before it is regained. In the next
3 months, the time clocks on 99W will be interconnected via hard wire which
should be an improvement over the current situation. Tom asked what the
pedestrian signals do to the sys tem. Allen explained that they lengthen the
green light in the pedestrian crossing direction. Pedestrians are allowed 1
second per 4 feet curb to curb. This contributes to further throwing the
system out of synchronization. Joe asked if a mechanical system would be
better. The answer was a definite no. When the hard wiring of the clocks
is completed, we will have the most modern, efficient system available, I
think.
Wilbur and Mark explained the impact the proposed garbage transfer site
would have on the Hunziker and Hall Streets area. Following lengthy discus-
sion, Mark moved that Tom write a letter from the committee addressed to
the city council, Metro, The Times and The Oregonian stating the problems
associated with the proposed site. Joe seconded the motion and it passed
unanimously.
Mark brought up half street versus centerline improvement. He asked the
county why they switched from half street to centerline and was presented
with some information. He then asked if this is an issue we should study.
Lidija asked why not require full street improvements. The general answer
was too many problems associated with different owners. Lidija expressed
reconcern with variances granted and the problems they create. Milt moved
that Mark set up a speaker from Washington County on half street improvements
for a future meeting. Tom seconded and the motion passed unanimously.
Joe discussed current light rail and bus proposals. Several changes are
going on and he will set up a presentation for a future meeting whenever the
committee desires.
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Milt explained what the Southwest Corridor study is doing. Both he and Tom
are on the Citizens Advisory Committee and they will be bringing items
before our committee in the future.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:37 p.m.
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