City Council Minutes - 07/06/2006 Agenda Item No. G
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Tigard City Council Meeting Minutes
Date: July 6, 2006
Time: 6:00 p.m.
Place: Tigard City Hall, 13125 SW Hall Boulevard
Tigard, Oregon
Attending: Mayor Craig Dirksen Presiding
Councilor Sally Harding
Councilor Sydney Sherwood
Councilor Nick Wilson
Councilor Tom Woodruff
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Special 1.1 Mayor Dirksen called the City Council to Order at 6:01 p.m.
Meeting
1.2 Council Present: Mayor Dirksen, Councilors Harding,
Sherwood,Wilson,and Woodruff.
1.3 Pledge of Allegiance
1.4 Call to Council and Staff for Non-Agenda Items
2. City Staff Present: City Manager Prosser, Interim Community
Center Development Director Coffee, Senior Planner Nachbar
Advisory
Commission Consultants Present: Joe Hertzberg and Carol Turner
Discussion
CCAC Members: Alexander Craghead, Gretchen Buehner,Lily
Lilly, Carolyn Barkley, Carl Switzer, Roger Potthoff, and Jim
Andrews.
Interested Party: Lisa Hamilton-Treick
Mayor Dirksen welcomed everyone to the meeting. He said the
only issue tonight is the City Center Advisory Commission and
some issues that have arisen. He thanked consultants Joe
Hertzberg and Carol Turner for attending. He stated that the
purpose of the meeting was to hear the consultant's report,give
everyone a chance to consider it and come up with a course of
action.
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Mayor Dirksen said the last thing he wanted to do was turn this
into a re-hash of who said what, and place blame. He felt
everyone in the room had the same goal at heart and that is the
betterment of Tigard. He said there was no reason to try and
figure out whose fault it was that things happened.
Management Consultant Joe Hertzberg introduced himself and
said that he has done a lot of work for governments in the area
for many years. He requested that everyone at the meeting
introduce themselves.
Also attending was Carol Turner whose firm,Leadership for
Action,works with non-profit and public sector teams and
organizations to help them work together more effectively. She
worked with Mr. Hertzberg on this report.
Mr. Hertzberg handed out a copy of their report, "Summary of
interviews with members of the City Center Advisory
Commission." A copy of this report is on file in the City
Recorder's office. He thanked every member of the CCAC for
meeting with him over a very short time period. He set the
context by thanking every member of the CCAC for making
themselves available for interviews wid-in very short order. He
said his job was to report what they heard, not to make
recommendations or interpretation of what was said. He said
this report was previously discussed with City Manager Prosser.
Because there are two names mentioned in the report—Mike
Marr and Craig Dirksen—they talked with both of them so no
one would feel blind-sided by what is in the report.
Mr. Hertzberg said that everyone interviewed agreed that the
CCAC focus is downtown improvement. The Downtown
Improvement Plan is the "playbook" that people are working
from and that no one said they want to change the focus from
downtown to another area or a larger area. Given that,he said
there are a lot of ways to read the Downtown Plan and there is a
lot of latitude for interpretation that he felt needed clarification.
Ms.Turner said she enjoyed getting to know the Tigard area's
many strengths and the many people who are invested in
making it into a great community. She noted that major
elements necessary for a group or task force to be successful
were not put forth by the City. The CCAC did not start out
with the foundation it needed. This led to many comments
about unclear direction,a lack of structure and confusion about
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roles.
Ms. Turner gave examples of how the CCAC's charge and
parameters were not clear. Timelines and expectations were not
spelled out. The selection process for on-going task force
members was different than for at-large members. Rules and
procedures were not in place for the election of officers. There
was confusion about the role of the CCAC in relationship to the
City Council and the Downtown Task Force and what it meant
to be a public body. There was confusion about roles and
authority. A more recent development was confusion about the
relationship of the CCAC and the Streetscape Working Group.
In talking to people the consultants heard differing stories about
what people thought and how they thought things fit together.
Regardless, everyone they spoke with agreed that this group did
not work well together. They didn't gel. Mr. Hertzberg said it
was not a feeling of there being an"in" and an "out"group;but
rather the entire group felt devalued and not listened to. Mr.
Hertzberg did not hear of any focused effort made to bring
people together and help them get to know each other and what
strengths they brought to the group.
Among the people he spoke to, no one felt good about what
happened at the meeting on June 1. He said that people seemed
to regret that things played out in such an unpleasant manner.
Obviously,Mike Marr was in the center of many discussions.
They heard a lot of recognition and appreciation for his
commitment and passion for the effort. Also recognized were
shortcomings in his leadership style. Most of those who gave a
"no confidence"vote expressed concerns about leadership,
leadership style and felt that the CCAC needed a leader who
could move it forward and bring people together. Mr.
Hertzberg did not hear any ugly and vicious words or personal
attacks on anyone. He heard concerns about leadership style and
what it would take to move the CCAC forward.
He said it was very clear that there was an extensive amount of
"off-line" conversation. Rumor and innuendo substituted for
real communication. Right before the June 1"meeting there
were some people who were engaged in a crescendo of
communication and others who were closed out the
communication entirely,which was an exacerbating factor.
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Mr. Hertzberg said Commission members'personal motivations
were questioned as some would benefit personally or
economically from urban renewal in downtown Tigard. On the
other hand,people were very clear about their own interests in
this. Ms. Turner said that is often the case when a group is not
working well together and has a lack of trust in each other.
Attribution of motivation,without checking it out, can happen
too.
They said they heard mixed opinions on staff and consultants.
Some members felt staff and consultants were difficult to work
with. Roles and responsibilities have been unclear and different
people have different ideas of what these roles are and should
be.
Mr. Hertzberg said many people indicated that the Mayor played
a role in this and many attributed to him the idea of the no-
confidence vote, not necessarily supporting it,but introducing
the concept. Some CCAC members expressed disappointment
about the Mayor not asserting leadership and not being
forthcoming about his role. He noted again that Mayor Dirksen
had been told about this prior to tonight's meeting so he was
not being blindsided.
Mr. Hertzberg spoke about the future of the CCAC from the
group's standpoint. He thought it fair to say no one suggested
the group could come back together,rewind and go back to
where they were. There were substantially different attitudes
between the members who resigned and those who remain.
Most of the former members believe the CCAC should be
dissolved and reconstituted. Most of the remaining group felt
the group is working together productively and effectively and
should continue. Most recommended that alternates should be
appointed as regular members and there should be selective
additions, especially to reflect the fact that a whole lot of
experience with downtown and downtown improvement has
been lost. That perspective is important and the few people
remaining that have that experience would have to carry a lot
more weight than they had before.
He said regardless of what happened they agreed that the
Council needs to be clear about what the CCAC's role and
mission are and under what rules it is expected to operate.
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Ms. Turner wanted to emphasize that she heard a range of
interpretations about the Downtown Improvement Plan. Some
see it as a vision and some see it as a blueprint.Within that there
is a huge amount of flexibility and Council needs to decide what
level of specificity they want to give guidance. Council needs to
clarify which group makes decisions.
Mayor Dirksen asked if Council had any questions to ask the
consultants or him. Councilor Wilson asked if the consultants
sensed an overwhelming philosophical split about the vision.
He asked if his assumption that there were two main factions
was correct or were there a lot of factions.
Mr. Hertzberg said there were obviously two camps in several
ways, such as members of Downtown Task Force and newer
members, or people who voted for the measure of no-
confidence and those who did not.
Councilor Wilson reiterated his question about whether the split
was along the line of fundamental vision for the entire project,
or was it conflicts between people about leadership style. He
said that made a big difference to the Council. He said he might
be inclined to just suggest getting over it and getting on with it,
if it was personality conflicts. But he said if it was a
philosophical split between"Camp A and Camp B" about how
downtown is to be developed, that is a substantive issue that
needs to be resolved.
Mr. Hertzberg noted that he was a professional facilitator who
works with groups. He said that he facilitates groups with much
deeper divisions than this all the time. His feeling was that,if
this group could sit down together at a table and address issues,
the differences could be bridged.
Mayor Dirksen read from the report that"everyone agreed that
the CCAC should continue to focus on downtown
improvement. While its responsibilities encompass the entire
urban renewal area,its primary task is to implement the
Downtown Improvement Plan." If there is a general consensus
among all the members and former members of the CCAC, he
saw that as a clear unity of purpose. He also felt that statement
is exactly in line with the Council's view. He said that at a basic
philosophical level he did not see an issue.
Ms. Turner said she agreed with Mr. Hertzberg and did not see
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that division of vision but the devil is in the details and that is
where the differences may come out.
Mr.Hertzberg said it is heartening that there is consensus on
where they want to go and there is not such a split that they
have to go back to the drawing board.
Councilor Sherwood asked if the Council should sit down and
put together the rules and charge with what we see as the
outcome before everybody is brought back together to try and
hash things out. Ms. Turner said that definitely needs to be done
right away.
Councilor Harding agreed. She did not see anything that
indicates the vision has changed. However, she thought there
were things that came to Council before it got to this level. She
talked to the Mayor and City Manager and felt no one on the
Council responded. She lays it at the Council's feet. She did
not think Council should tell the whole group to go away and
start over,if they've got the vision together and the Council
lacked the ability to lead.
Council Harding said the City had brought together a lot of
bright people on the CCAC and needs to work to bring the
group together.
Councilor Wilson observed that although Mr. Hertzberg
characterized the group as "failed," he saw some successes. He
said that while it may have failed on an interpersonal level, on a
practical level there were some huge successes. Tigard passed
an urban renewal plan for the first time ever. Everyone was
able to keep it together for that. The Downtown Plan is done
and people in Tigard seem to like it. Mike Marr and Marland
Henderson's contributions should be recognized.
Councilor Wilson also noted that one of the things that may
have contributed to problems is that Council made a conscious
decision to broaden the group from the original Downtown
Task Force. This was based on concerns that the Downtown
Task Force was too narrowly focused on people who had
downtown interests. Some friction in the group was expected
and it did have the effect of adding people who have a larger
focus which lead to the boundary growing larger. Councilor
Wilson said regarding the Council's failure to establish goals and
rules—guilty as charged. We have never done this before.
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We're not seasoned PDC leaders. It is a good time to sit down
and determine the next steps and define the groundrules.
Mr. Hertzberg said that the Council,by identifying the
downtown as a priority, deserves some credit too.
Councilor Wilson said one of the reasons he ran for Council is
that he wanted to see something happen downtown. He said
things had come a long way and what we have now is a lot
better than what we had then.
Councilor Woodruff said the City of Tigard has many advisory
committees. He said that even though this was a new advisory
committee with outside consultants and more money involved,
he thought the CCAC members were seasoned people who
were not novices. He knew some had of advisory experience
with other groups, and thought they would be able figure this
out even without much structure. He said this was a good lesson
for the Council, that it can't just be assumed that putting good
people together will make a committee gel and grow together.
He said there could have been more contact with the group.
Mayor Dirksen said that on at least two levels the Council was at
fault. On a more formal level,because we are the governing
body,whatever happens on our watch,is our fault. On a couple
of levels he said he felt personally at fault. Staff said that it was
the law to have a citizen's advisory committee for an urban
renewal district. So they formed one immediately because they
couldn't move forward without it. He remembered City
Manager Prosser telling him soon after that the CCAC had a
task of creating a boundary. He wondered if they were ready for
that task but he didn't question it and let it roll ahead.
Councilor Harding referred to historical information she
obtained on reasons why past BID's failed. She said there were
business owners opposed, so it did not go forward. She noted
that this latest urban renewal went to the entire voting district of
Tigard and passed.
Mayor Dirksen said he may have felt complacent.When that
BID was moved forward, there were two groups, one behind it
and one was bought in later,who eventually opposed it and it
failed. When we created the Downtown Task Force we
purposefully included individuals from both sides of that issue
so that we could have them work together towards a
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compromise. Three years later,with a completed Downtown
Plan, the City had a group who were so well connected to one
another that they refused to go home after their work was done.
They wanted to stay involved and be included. He said there
was success in getting the two sides together so they recreated
that process for the CCAC.
Councilor Woodruff wanted to acknowledge the CCAC in that
in spite of strong feelings on this issue from the members, he
didn't see a lot of articles about it in the newspapers and it
stayed relatively quiet. He appreciated how the members did
not make it into an ugly situation.
Ms. Turner said she was struck throughout the process by the
enormity and importance of this effort for the City. She said
this was obviously something new for the Council, staff and
citizens and for it to be successful it had to be done right. This
was a just a readjustment needed to get it right.
Councilor Sherwood asked the consultants what they would
recommend for the next steps.
Mr. Hertzberg responded that it would be a violation of
confidence to recommend what to do about the people. But he
said that whatever is done about the CCAC membership, the
focus needs to be sharpened so that everyone understands:
• What their charge is
• What their role is
• What it means to be an advisory committee
• What it means to be a public body
He said the single most important thing the Council can do to
set them up for success is to give them a strong foundation.
Mayor Dirksen said the first thing they needed to do was to
create a better structure. He suggested looking back at what
their dialog and what the direction was when the CCAC was
formed and what Council said their tasks would be. He also
wanted to look at whatever statute staff said they must follow
and what it says the advisory commission is supposed to do. He
suggested refreshing their memories and then seeing what else
needs to be added to create that framework. He asked those
present if that sounded reasonable.
Councilor Sherwood said they don't want to "throw the baby
out with the bath water." She suggested getting the foundation
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set before going any further.
Mr. Hertzberg said the second thing would be for the Council
to be clear within their own group what the downtown focus is.
He said it was open for different kinds of interpretation and
there needed to be a very clear message from the Council what
the focus is.
Councilor Wilson said there were groundrules about how to be
a chair, etc. but there are also steps to implement the plan. The
plan is just being developed. He asked for staff to bring the
Council up to speed.
Interim Community Director Coffee said that the Downtown
Implementation Strategy document that the CCAC has been
working on will be coming to the Council for adoption. It
basically sets the program for the next year and the
three-year scope of work.
Mayor Dirksen said that portion has come along well and is the
result of the entire group. He thought it was a very valid
strategy. He referred to an earlier comment about whether the
Downtown Plan was a framework or a specific list. He said the
answer is that it is both. It's a framework and vision but also a
Est of specific projects to begin with. As time goes by it needs to
be reviewed to identify more projects and see if projects on that
list are still valid. This is one of the roles of the CCAC, as well
as bringing their opinions on projects to Council for them to
decide on.
Senior Planner Nachbar said the strategy that is being developed
is designed for review and update on an annual basis so that the
Commission and Council can check progress and revise the
strategy as appropriate.
Councilor Woodruff asked if there was a stable staff.
Mr. Hertzberg noted that he had not met Senior Planner
Nachbar before and he wasn't speaking of him personally,but
he suggested that everybody be made clear about roles,
relationships and responsibilities. The one thing he heard was
that the staff member involved with the CCAC was new and
there wasn't anyone to orient him. His manager,while he has
been here awhile was new in that position and even the City
Mana er had not been in his position for a long time. He
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suggested the City backfill and make sure staff involved is on
the same page and has the same background. He said it looked
to him that everyone hit the ground running.
Mayor Dirksen agreed placing a new staff member who had not
been involved at the beginning might not have been the best
choice. But staff-change circumstances were beyond anyone's
control.
Councilor Sherwood said they needed to make decisions at the
time and they did what they thought was best.
Councilor Wilson said the bad thing is when people get
frustrated and decide to leave...we can find a role for them if
they're still willing.
Mayor Dirksen said he wanted to talk about the issue of
personnel. He referred to Councilor Sherwood's comment that
they needed to dissolve the Commission and start all over.
Council Sherwood said that was a knee-jerk reaction.
Mayor Dirksen said he had to admit his first thought was very
similar.
But he said that if they were to dissolve the Commission and
then look at membership later, the odds are that we would
consider asking the same people to come back again. That
being said,it is his opinion that the Commission, as it now sits,
doesn't adequately represent the full spectrum of Tigard
citizens. It would be difficult for him to consider
recommendations by them and embrace them whole-heartedly
because he doesn't know that opinion represents a wide opinion
of the City. For the Commission to move forward he felt they
need a broader range of membership than what is there now.
Mayor Dirksen said he recommended not dissolving the
Commission, asking those who are still on it to remain, and
once the strategy is finalized, to become somewhat inactive until
we have time to consider the membership and add some new
members.At that point we would give them more formal tasks
to consider and work on.
Councilor Woodruff said once it was fully reconstituted they
would determine their chairman.
Mayor Dirksen agreed that at that time it would be a formal
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"new beginning." At that point they would elect new officers.
Staggered terms with limits would be set and different positions
would be assigned at the same time as well. The most that
would probably happen with existing members is that they may
find their terms at different lengths.
He said that a statement he heard before this process was that
this CCAC was interim until urban renewal was passed and then
a "real" CCAC would be formed. He stressed that this was
never the case.
Councilor Harding didn't remember that the CCAC was going
to be temporary. She asked the Mayor what demographic group
he felt was not represented by this committee.
Mayor Dirksen said that a large portion of the people that have
chosen to leave are from the business and property owners of
the downtown area and he did not feel they were well
represented. Councilor Harding noted that some CCAC
members in attendance worked downtown. Mayor Dirksen
reiterated that he said the downtown business and property
owners were not un-represented,but not well represented.
Councilor Woodruff said he liked the idea of finding ways to
use the talent and dedication of the people that have already
been involved. He asked the consultants if when they talked
with folks about not wanting to come together as part of the old
constructed group, did any of them want to be a part of it in
some way?
Mr. Hertzberg said he believed everyone they talked to has
commitment to the downtown improvement and will be
involved in some way for the long term. He didn't know if
bridges that have been burned can come back together.
Mayor Dirksen said he would like to extend a hand to those
who tendered their resignations and ask them a) would they like
to come back;and b) in what capacity would they be willing to
come back. He said he would hate to lose their history and
perspective.
Councilor Woodruff didn't like being between a rock and a hard
place in feeling Council had to choose between supporting the
old faction that left or the remaining group. He felt that these
eo le were all doing good work even if there were different
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styles.
Councilor Wilson asked about the perception of personal gain
and cautioned that we need to be careful about this. Councilor
Sherwood said the property and business owners need to be
represented, especially during formulation, as they're the ones
that will be most impacted, either for good or for bad.
City Manager Prosser said you need property owners in the
district to beinvolved in urban renewal. Oregon ethics laws
provide some guidance—with regard to a general interest vs. a
specific interest. For example,if we needed to negotiate a
property purchase with a CCAC member, they could not
participate on the CCAC regarding this transaction.
Ms.Turner said she didn't feel this was a really serious issue. As
trust is built in a group,people will appreciate everyone else's
strengths and different skills and that will add to the whole.
And balancing that with ongoing public input through various
means as you go along not only keeps the public informed but
acts as a counter-balance.
Councilor Wilson asked what the current status of the group is
and when they need to be meeting. Mayor Dirksen said there is
a schedule of issues for them to consider. City Manager Prosser
said that the Strategic Work Plan will be coming to Council for
approval;they've got to be looking at Downtown Design
guidelines and a number of other things.
Senior Planner Nachbar said they are going to be meeting two
times per month and have begun to work on land-use issues in
the downtown. The Strategic Plan will be presented for
adoption on August 8`h but in the meantime the group has quite
a schedule to work on the beginning of the land use regulations
for downtown.
Mayor Dirksen said they need to continue to move forward with
review, consideration and discussion but probably not come to
any decisions or formal recommendations to Council. They
should continue to work but wait until new members could
come on and review what existing group has done and get
ownership of that as well.
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Councilor Sherwood asked if the Mayor was looking for a
Council Committee to meet right away and start working on a
charge, focus and ground rules. Mayor Dirksen said the first
thing to do is get information from staff and decide at that point
what amount of effort and time is needed.
City Manager Prosser mentioned that there is not a workshop
meeting this month. He felt the appropriate time to discuss this
was at an August meeting.
Councilor Wilson asked if the Council was just repeating the
same mistake as last time-ongoing tasks,lots of background
information from staff, deadlines and we're throwing new
people in. He suggested going slow in adding new people and
stagger terms carefully. A suggestion in the report that he
would like to see implemented is more formal training for
committee appointees that deals with appropriate behavior.
City Manager Prosser said the City is starting a process to
formally develop a charge statement and structure for all of our
boards and commissions. He said they also want to do that for
staff liaisons. Councilor Woodruff thought this was a good idea
and wondered whether this could be part of the volunteer
program whereby once a month, any newly appointed board or
commission members would be required to sit in on an evening
class. Mayor Dirksen asked about existing members. Councilor
Sherwood said we should formalize it and take everyone
through it. Councilor Wilson said it needs to include the touchy
subject of how to remove someone because sometimes that
needs to be done.
Councilor Woodruff noted that the report recommended that
the alternates be involved. He asked how many members can
be on the CCAC. City Manager Prosser said the Code says
between 6-12 and as they requested an odd number, they could
add one alternate and have 11. Councilor Sherwood asked if
there should be a member of the Council on the committee.
Mayor Dirksen said that having a direct liaison with the Council Motion by
worked well with the Task Force. Councilor Woodruff asked, Councilor
"What about a Council person going off the Council in Woodruff, seconded
January?" Mayor Dirksen said that would be a worthy by Councilor
consideration. Sherwood to
adjourn the meeting.
Mayor Dirksen said all CCAC members need to be notified that The motion carriedby a unanimous vote
they can give comments in the next week. Mayer Dirksen will of Council present.
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contact the members who resigned by phone between now and
next Tuesday.
Mayor Dirksen Yes
A decision will be made at next week's meeting about adding an Sally Harding Yes
Sydney Sherwood Yes
alternate member. Nick Wilson Yes
Tom Woodruff Yes
Mayor Dirksen said more was achieved at this meeting than he
envisioned and thanked the consultants for their report.
Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 7:29 p.m. Motion by Councilor
Woodruff,seconded
by Councilor
Sherwood,to adjourn
the meeting.
The motion was
approved by a
unanimous vote of
Council present.
Mayor Dirksen Yes
Councilor Harding Yes
Councilor Sherwood Yes
Councilor Wilson Yes
Councilor Woodruff Yes
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