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City Council Packet - 12/03/1962 T I G A R -D C I T Y C. O U N C I r, M.INUTB.S Or , ERTING. DEC MBED -RD: 1962. 9 special meeting of the City Council of the City of Tigard having been called for 8-.09 F. F:.. Dac.,-mUer 3--,1, - 1962, in the Community Hall in Tigard, Oregon, the ;:olln,.rinc persons were present; Mayor E A. Woodar,; and Councilor n F. J. Cooper, Karl P. Hanneman, George E. Sitton, Peter. W. Heintz and Attorney F. A. Anderson. Also present were; City Superintendent. C. E. Janoe; "Iden ,? Carter, City Engineer; C. W. Marshall, Corporate Engineer. of Nalley's,_Inc.; Fran?. Seal, Fanager of Nallev's Tigard Plant; .Dor. Benson, State of pre(-fon Sanitary engineer. and VZ A. Bringl:e, Civil Engineer of T.ills'�oro. The meeting was called to ore.er. at 8:00 P. P ?y -- Mayor 1.400dard. Mayor Woodard. The purpose o:r ,:his rneeting is, of course, to find out what load wecan expect from Nalley's rlant,in the future, because we are thinking about expanding the present sewage disposal plant of the City. As a basis to start, eye have a'report from Mr. Kringle. Mr. V. A. Brinale- T 1,_ , ,e leC. t� 1 - -- . - _ r.! .,.�= serer ro the City Council, setting forth the average finfings over a six day period; June 20, 21, 22, 27 28 and 29, 1962. We found that the flow ran in the neig'hbor'hood of 4.2,400 gallons per day with an average of 1990 BOD .(Ppm) This is an average over a six day period,' eloliver.ing 55520,;. BOD per day. Suspended solids running 4S9 (ppm) for a total if 1�2'm per May with a pH range of 6.1/9.0_ Total solids tae.re 2215 (rpm) disolned solids (ppm) ,1726, lolitile` solids (ppm): 1290 with Settleable iSolids'; (1nI/l) of 0.97. The raw influent was measured at 170,000 gallons per day .:,rit'i a BOD (,ppm) of 540, which chec'r_ed out the csuantity coming }Eon-DTalley's; there was a Couble check on the figures. T:zore is a total delivered BOD .6f 768,-'; per clay. From the above tabulation it can be seen that Nalley's, Inc, is exceec,ing the limitations of ;.,ie BOD provision of their contract with the City of Ticard by 650 per cent and the suspended solids provision. by 240 per cent. The hydraulic provision of the contract is not being exceeded. The Nalley's.plant., 'on the basis' of 0.17 pounds BOD per capita per day,i yields an average population equivalent of 3060. Mayor Woodard: What we" are getting from Nalley's- is way above the contract figures that we had? Mr. Bringlen Yes. Mayor: Ftoodard: Now what we want to find out is whether Nalley's is'going 'to remedy, this in some way. 12-3-62.- Page 1. Mr. Marshall: Thies, is the first time I have seen this report I don't know where it rot tied up. There followed a review of the fic-ores eic..n ,,_,: 7`r, firincrle, an eXplanati.on of t)ie Tiethoes an,,' timer, useel' in cicterynininc. the figures; r Nalley's plant operations with e-'rect to peak and low periods of iree.ucta.on aml tec nn_ca1 0,e';.aias in respect to Nalley's methods of determininc setaaae lnti '_roc their plant, number of enployo-as at various t;, es of p�oduct ion, as well as details of Zow they had enc'eavo est to lerforn cor'recti.ons within their own plant operations. All of -his was 'thoroughly discussed with *'r. f°:ars fall .-n? Seal nnO joined in by Nlr. Carter and Mr. Janoe for "ne C1ty. Attornev Anderson raised some questions as to tite application of tine contract to the operations as conducter' Ou.ri.nr the creak: and low load periods. There was also considerable discussion as to plant capacit" to be designed,for i.ncluCinc, Nalley's proposed load and to prepare for City Populationloadon the expanded plant. yr.. Marshall stated "we have to figure out ourselves just what we want to do; I was not aware of just what all the problems were." Mr. Seal: Part of our answer here is that we have a problem at the water treatment system; we hope the answer ;,ull be set_atthe'time of the visit of our engineer. To answer what our future load will be, we don't have the answer.. Councilman Hanneman: (addressing A`r. Carter) Is there any- thing further you can :o for us? Mr. Carter: We need to know what Nalley's and the Council will agree on in the way of capacity and then design the plant ;or the rest of the population. I•Ar. Marshall: From our point of view, if the plant c;ets too expensive we might close it down, it is two to .three times what we, are paying in Tacoma. we have to make aprofit on our 'potato chips, we might convert to warehousing. Mayor Woodard: What is it we need, to know i.n order to ;go ahead and figure on our expansion; what are we acing to go by; a contract? I haven't 'heard anything about what we are supposed to do; what are we figuring on? Is Nalley's to give us an answer or we to :give valley',s figures? Mr. Bringle: I think the answer should conte from Nalle.yls; they know their presentandfuture production. Mayor Woodard: That is, whether they are going to give us more of aload? Mr. Bringle: Whether or not they are going to furnish that amount as we figured by the contract.; or whetherlthe_v are going to renegotiate the contract. 12-3-62 - Page 2. Fr. Marshall: Basically yes, that is whether we reneco+-iate a contract for a larder hydraulic loaT or ahe.-.}ier we abi-da by the contract. Councilman Flanneman: Da You have Zn�, idea when 4 or i• ].1 gave an answer..' Mr. Marshall: After the first of the year. Councilman Hanneman: How long+ could we wait to +ret .are accurate figures and prcjectina that from Na.}le- s Mayor Woodard. I would say we can't wait too long. :7e nava to get more plant. Tde are tab;ing on more and more every Iay and the plant is getting smaller,and smaller. If •,,,e are c_oin:3 to run more tests we should start right away end c, answer by January. et the We have to have our grant in to the State by the 15th of ,lune and we still have to "lave the enuineers design this plant and that ta}ces a little titre, It .is the expansion program in Tigard we have to take care of now. Mr. Marshall: The problem is how much water, we .-lave'estab- lished, would show pretty much the strength of sewage'at the planta Attorne_r Anderson:- Could I suggest that perhaps they should declare themselves in writing to the City. Once vo u make the contract that is aoinq to be ii- „ i-,� .,,.,, .,; � b yyyGi - l plant, you are going to an,ign certain capacity to them; the minute you assign more to them you are cutting somebody else out. Keep the industry within those limits once you expand the plant. Favor Woodard: Are we to write Nalley's a letter to that effect or have Nalley's write us what they intend to doz Attorney Anderson: I would say to confirs, this meeting and r they will 'furnish you, within the designated date, what it is they want you to;do t_o'accommodate the maximum demand`and then when you get that the engineers can tell you whether it is economically feasible and 'having done it you expect them to use that demand. If you build a plant "to accommodate a considerable loading and the industry doesn't use that, then you might not be able to amortize your investment as it is set.:: Mayor Woodard: Do you suppose that :you could aive us an answer by the 15th of January? Mr. Marshall: I would think so, yes. Attorney Anderson; if you tell the City what your conditions' arP; in those terms, they could then use that to dilate their needs, somewhere in that are they would have to, if they are going to commit themselves, they might want to know if'vou are going to use i.t, you have to tell them''what your economics are,;what you are going to spend, that you can't:stand'the tariff and therefore you would go to Denver and leave us w.t.th a big cavern here'. 12-3-62 - Page 3.' Mayor Woodard: It will not, be necessary to take any more tests, we have satisfactory tests here. Mr. nringle: _ Any time you ca,7nae the condition or cinance the treatment you have a g`o,?d rocs-bility of chanr,inq the. �uanti.tr and quality, then you have a jifferent se_. of <.1osign pres:.ures. Attorney Anderson: '3ow far ahead would %:rn expect them to ma?:e this projection; this contract gives them tie op'ion of renew- ing it for five years What I am,c{ ttin; at .i ss, are you pro- posing to build a facility that will ta?te care of i:ie in19us-.rial need~ for `:o:* lonC, how lone c?o-✓ou;want them to eosmit them- selves for; five years or. three years.' Mayor Woodard: My .icea would be to oro.m2t themselves to the termination ofthat contract and then renew one from then on. Attornev _ ncerson:.. You reneCGtia.te it. For w-.at peri.o:l. in the future are you croi.ng to Flan these adc •t.oral faci_t it-les _. one,...two, t ilree or ten ears. You want'their to declare selves and be hound thereby for a period. Mayor Woodard: We can't escpectthese people to carry on a loae that they can't nay _or; we aro not c.oinc; to r.; to build a three hun,.red thousan, <7ollar plant. iffy i,3ca is 'to build a plant to increase the capacity to last at least f_ve years and by that time we hope to have •a considerable number of extra people in there that we will have more to draw from toco aii6a__ With a 'a" plant_ That- .]1 r.:come five ,ears. Mr. grin^le: Jac-, r?eathersby, the Tigare--_:etzger Sanitary Authority said they Fre not interested in rartic_patinc i_n a joint operation, they would' rather son -two facili-ties installe6 and the Orec_,on State Sanitary is not 'thinking of Metzger and Tigard in a join_ r".aci:li.tp. Mayor Woodard: As far as Nally' is concerned the reason we have come here is '*,:o cet this material' from the:. and the next step is to write 'them a Letter ane- get ._.ii_s -information from them_ Meeting adjourned at 9:35 P. M. 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