HomeMy WebLinkAboutRE_ So I tried to have another lemonade stand 5-15-2023 From: Ken Ross
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 4:54 PM
To: Hot Mess Homestead NW
Subject: RE: So I tried to have another lemonade stand
Hi Elizabeth,
Thank you for the update. I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing difficulty in the neighborhood. It sounds like
calling the police was a good idea. I spoke with Hope regarding your concerns. She informed me that you are on our
interested parties list for urban livestock, so whenever we do move forward with any sort of update we will let you
know. Regarding Council meetings,you don't need to worry about missing anything. We haven't had any urban livestock
related updates for a while.
If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to call me at 503-718-2581.
Thanks for keeping me in the loop,
Ken
From: Hot Mess Homestead NW<sprague.liz@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 8:15 AM
To: Ken Ross<kenro@tigard-or.gov>
Subject:So I tried to have another lemonade stand
Hi Ken,
Just an update from my eventful Mother's Day weekend. I assume the case on my address is closed, but if there is still a
file somewhere, feel free to add this.
The littles have been begging to do a lemonade stand, but since the last one I have been careful to try to help them pick
a nice weekend so they can stick to the four per year allowed.With the temps this weekend I decided this would be a
great one. Mike was working in Texas all week and didn't get home until a few hours after this so it was just me and our
7 and 9 year old.
A friend and her family(husband and three small children) stopped by while we were setting up to chat and look at the
animals.They parked across Ann st. from our house and were here for maybe 30 minutes.As they got in their van to
leave, the owner of the house they parked in front of(though on the public street) hit their van with his lawn mower and
flipped them off.They got out of their van and he proceeded to yell, cuss,get in their faces and ultimately led me to call
the police.
During this commotion, Roger Pothoff decided to come over and film with his phone. He then decided it was a good
time to bring up his chicken, rat, urban farming issues saying it was somehow all connected to the right to park on a
public street. He even went home to get his new poster boards to show my friends and the officers as he continued his
lecture.The attached photos are taken from a video I took.
I engaged minimally, as did the officers, and my friends remained calm and discussed some of his points, but reminded
him (Roger)this had nothing to do with why we had the police out there,to which he strongly disagreed. Eventually my
friends left and Roger continued his lecture with one of the officers and after awhile I made sure the officers didn't need
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anything else from me and I left.They left shortly after that, but stopped to give my kids some police stickers. So we
never did get our lemonade signs out, but we did still have some neighbors come by and get some which lessened the
blow for the kids.
While I am catching you up, I will note the conversation I had with Roger maybe a week ago.This is I believe the only
conversation we have had since the council voting session. I was working in the upper corner of the yard, outside the
animal fence where most people come to visit them. I was setting up some new fairy garden and dinosaur toys for the
younger visitors to play with (they love arranging the figurines!) I left for a minute and when I came back Roger was
standing there at the corner of the fence holding a dead rat by the tail. I am not sure where it was from as it was not in
that corner moments before and I am not sure why he was standing there with it unless he was waiting for me to come
back. I said "Hi" and continued what I was doing. He stood there for a minute and then said "Really?You don't have
anything to say?" holding the rat out. I said "Good job." I told him we were continuing with all of our rodent prevention
efforts and it appeared he was doing good work on the property behind us. He asked how the education piece was
going and after I had him clarify(he apparently thinks because I asked for education over restriction that it is my
responsibility to provide that education) I told him it was going well, but I wasn't comfortable discussing details with him
(because I am actually working on something.) He asked if throwing scoops of food to our chickens was "best practices"
and I said "yes." I explained to him why we do it that way and that it is the best way to make sure there is no feed left on
the ground to attract any rodents. He scoffed and started in on bird flu (which I am plenty familiar with the current
status in the US and Oregon) and ultimately I told him I was willing to have a discussion if he would actually listen and
not interrupt me every time I tried to explain something.
I apologize if I shouldn't be sending you this when I am not filing a complaint and while there may not be an open case
on our address, but I wanted to update you in the event you can still add it to a file because he is clearly planning on
taking this further.
I plan on writing to the Mayor and asking her if the yearly review on the chicken ordinance will be a scheduled thing or
based on whether or not it is asked for specifically, but if you know that answer please let me know. Roger mentioned it
so I know it is on his radar. I am trying to make sure to review council meetings, but I am admittedly not great at it.
I hope all is well and as always, I appreciate your time!
Kindly,
Elizabeth Sprague
503-962-0486
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